.
Feedback

Labor Market Surveys for July Leave CT Labor Experts Puzzled

Business survey shows gain in payroll jobs. Household survey shows sharp and dramatic decrease in employment and rise in unemployment, back above national levels. "Both can't be true."

Two labor market surveys for Connecticut pointed in dramatically different directions for July, leaving labor market experts puzzled about which way employment rates are trending in the state.

The state’s business establishment survey, which estimates payroll jobs in businesses that are covered by unemployment insurance, showed that Connecticut added 5,100 positions in July, “a decent performance for recent times.”

On the other hand, the state’s household survey—a measurement of household employment, unemployment, and the state’s unemployment rate—showed a sharp and dramatic decrease in employment, an increase in unemployment and a discouraging increase in the unemployment rate.

Based on the household survey, the estimate of unemployed people, seasonally adjusted, was higher by 8,600 (5.6 percent) from June 2012 to 163,300 in July, and the unemployment rate climbed higher four-tenths of a percentage point to 8.5 percent, back to the same level measured for October 2011. The July 2012 United States unemployment rate was 8.3 percent, up one-tenth of a percentage point over the month.

If the household survey numbers are true, Connecticut is now back above the national unemployment rate.

"Both can't be true"

“They both can’t be true,” said Andy Condon, the director of the Office of Research at the Connecticut Department of Labor, of the establishment survey and the household survey. “These programs have been vital to our understanding of economic conditions in Connecticut, but we will have to wait until more data comes in to see if July’s results were a statistical anomaly or an early indicator of a turning point in the economy, as yet uncorroborated by other data.”

Condon, on a teleconference call with reporters Thursday morning, said he has not ever seen a discrepancy this sharp between the numbers. He said explaining the discrepancy is difficult, if not impossible.

“There are two possibilities. One is that these are different surveys and different populations measuring the same thing. Since they are both sample-based surveys, it’s possible that one or the other is anomalous this month. That isn’t very likely, but it’s possible,” he said. “The second set of possibilities is that you can’t discount the fact that the household survey is giving us an early indicator of unemployment that we’re not seeing elsewhere. Only time will tell us whether that is true.”

Locally, unemployment numbers for Madison ticked up in June to 6.0 percent, from 5.7 percent in May and 4.7 percent in April. That is the highest it has been this year for the town, but lower than June 2011, when it was 6.2 percent. In June 2012 there were 593 people listed as being unemployed in town. Those numbers, provided by the state Department of Labor, are not seasonally adjusted and are the latest available for the town. See this list from the Connecticut Department of Labor for June numbers for other towns.

"They typically move in similar directions"

Condon said one survey is not considered more reliable than the other. “They typically move in similar directions, this is unusual,” he said. He said he did not think other states are seeing similar discrepancies, but that in some cases in the past, numbers have had to be revised in subsequent months.

The business establishment survey, which showed that Connecticut added 5,100 positions in July, showed those gains across the board in a wide variety of jobs, Condon said, including manufacturing, business services, and health care.

Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, in a prepared statement, said he was “skeptical” about the numbers.

"A gap of this magnitude has never happened"

“I am skeptical about the jobs numbers released today ... A gap of this magnitude between these two surveys has never happened in the 22 years they’ve been conducted.”

“To buy into the household survey number you’d have to believe that Connecticut lost 503 jobs every day during the month of July, and there’s just no evidence to suggest that happened.  Unemployment claims have drifted upward, but not at a rate that justifies the household survey numbers. Hence the skepticism.”

Malloy said it is clear that people do come flooding back into the job market once a recovery is underway, since they are more optimistic they can find work, causing the unemployment rate to go up. Also, he said, it takes more than 20 months to turn around a state economy that “failed, on a net basis, to grow jobs for more than 20 years.”

State's recovery affected by external factors

Finally, he noted, the state’s recovery is affected by external factors, including the struggling national recovery and uncertainty in Europe.

“The phrase ‘worst economic downturn since the Great Depression’ is used so often, we’ve become immune to the words.  But they’re true.  So, it should come as a surprise to no one that pulling the country and our state out of that downturn is hard.  Really hard,” he said. “But let me be clear: we are making progress, and I have every confidence we’ll continue to make progress.  Just yesterday, we announced an agreement that will retain more than 1,200 high paying jobs with good benefits and create up to 1,000 more in our state.  It’s also important to remember that the private sector in Connecticut has created more than 23,000 jobs since January of 2011, according to the employer survey.”

The details as reported by the state Department of Labor are in a press release posted with this story. 

Looking for a job, check out these resources from the state Department of Labor.

Newsletter & Alerts

Get the best stories each day and important breaking news

Subscribe

Not from Mansfield-Storrs Patch? Find your Local Patch »

Loading comments ...
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something
left to right: Meredith Prunty, Addison LaFountain, Adam Teper, Richard Meehan, Paisley Scott Dickey
Denise Tripp May 14, 2013 at 03:19 pm
be sure to watch the trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnWL3Z8TQYI <br/><br/>
Spiff April 2, 2013 at 09:01 pm
No, North Korea isn't making me nervous. They're just a bunch of big mouthed small minded windRead More bags. What really makes me nervous are the politicians currently in power around here, namely Dan Malloy and Barack Obama. They make me plenty more nervous than Kim Jong Un...
Jim April 2, 2013 at 08:16 pm
You cant blame this on bad parenting Dean, just ask any parent.
Jim April 2, 2013 at 08:14 pm
I wonder what will happen to these kids 20 years from now after taking these drugs.
Ben Rodriguez April 2, 2013 at 02:50 pm
ADHD is a real disorder but is way over-diagnosed. When a boy isn't engaged (bored, not challenged),Read More he's slapped with a label. Sometimes drugs are appropriate, other times it could mean that he needs to move up a grade level or be stimulated in another way. But other times its just covering problems up. I'd like to know what other countries do that diagnose ADHD.
K March 30, 2013 at 01:55 pm
Thank you, Julie Menard for everything you do. You are an amazing person and we are blessed to haveRead More you in our lives. Michael, Krista and Maddie
Janice Hurd March 29, 2013 at 09:16 pm
Thank You! and you as well! :)
aleta March 29, 2013 at 05:06 pm
Why not make them public! The whole public has been on this since begining. We mourned and have hadRead More tribute after tribute. We got to see the faces of the victims,why can't we see the evidence,life and witnesses of a man who did such a hienous act.. I don't get it.
Rebecca 'Flora' D'Angelo March 28, 2013 at 01:13 am
I don't know if this comment was supposed to be serious or not.....but if it is, here's why thatRead More should never happen: http://www.gaelick.com/2011/06/my-marriage-is-equal/16012/
John Pickoff March 27, 2013 at 03:56 pm
Why not name Marriage between people of the same sex "Gayrriage" and make them as valid asRead More marriage. It may keep more people happy.
Lord King Bloo March 27, 2013 at 03:51 pm
And there is the great thing about the Internet. I came here (just found Patch the other day) forRead More some civil discussion about local events with people in my community and not one post later it devolves to, essentially, name calling by anonymous users. It’s the most perfect constant in the universe. Anyway, no, 17 years is not that long in the grand scheme of things, but this is not the 1950’s. And I don’t see why in this case it’s Bill Clinton’s values. He signed the law, but I fail to see how that effects the current discussion. It would seem to be the values of the country as whole that are changing.
Anthony March 26, 2013 at 01:37 pm
Puke
Kathie March 26, 2013 at 12:03 pm
move somewhere warm, then I would help the homeless and hungry, and also amimal shelters