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Your Take: Can The Government Make Us Thinner?

On Monday, a judge struck down New York City's ban on large-sized sugary drinks that was to take effect Tuesday. Do you think the government can regulate better health?

Beginning Tuesday in New York City, patrons of restaurants, mobile food carts, delis and concessions at movie theaters, stadiums and arenas would not have been able to buy a sugary drink in a cup larger than 16 ounces.

Called the 'beverage portion rule,' the new regulation, which would have been enforced by the city's Department of Health, gave all the establishments three months to comply and then they will begin to be fined. The city enacted the rule in the hopes of fighting the obesity problem, and is the first in the nation to do so.

But on Monday, a New York judge struck down the regulation, calling it 'arbitrary and capricious.'

Reported The New York Times: "In his opinion, Justice Tingling specifically cited a perceived inequity of the soda rules, which applies to only certain sugared drinks -- for instance, beverages with a high milk content would be exempt -- and would apply only to some food establishments, like restaurants, but not others, like convenience stores."

According to the latest Community Health Survey in New York, in each of the five boroughs, those neighborhoods with higher rates of consumption of sugary drinks tended to have higher obesity rates. Nine of the top 10 neighborhoods with the highest obesity rates city-wide were also the highest in sugary drink consumption.

Sugary drinks are defined as sugar sweetened soda, iced tea, sports drinks and fruit punch.

What do you think? Do you think government rules can make us healthier? Can you sit through a movie without a gallon of soda in your lap? Add your opinion in the comments section of this article.

Spiff March 12, 2013 at 04:49 pm
Utterly ridiculous! But, what would you expect from one of the most liberal places on earth. It's one thing to provide education and information, but totally another thing to try to legislate this kind of issue. Hell, we might as well outlaw soda altogether and force people to drink broccoli milkshakes (made with nonfat milk, of course)! When government officials start to introduce things like this, it is time for them to go.
Ben Rodriguez March 12, 2013 at 06:15 pm
This is a bit over-reaching. Soda is not a cigarette. Cigarettes were found to be toxic and dangerous to non-users. Soda only hurts the user and doesn't have hundreds of toxic substances. Though I do get what they're trying to do. Like smoking, many soda drinkers get obese and can't handle the medical costs, which hospitals (and then government) pick up the tab for anyway. But this is over-reaching in my book.
Spiff March 12, 2013 at 06:23 pm
Hol-eee-Cow, Me and Ben agreeing on something; will miracles never cease to amaze me! Sounds like you're starting to recognize the ludicrousness of big government. Good for you, Ben!
Kaptainsteve March 12, 2013 at 08:24 pm
@Ben this may have been "found" by the EPA, but now this conclusion is highly dubious. "EPA's 1992 conclusions are not supported by reliable scientific evidence. The report has been largely discredited"
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2008/07/01/scientific-evidence-shows-secondhand-smoke-no-danger . In short those old studies counted "hits" that were not statistically significant and amounted to no more than chance. http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2007/11/01/wheres-consensus-secondhand-smoke In fact, MOST medical studies have been found to be wrong due to a results-oriented bias; http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/ And, it is the EXACT same thing as soda. If you allow government to regulate personal health, then you allow it to regulate personal health, the whole kit and kaboodle. We all know that it is not the general tendency of government programs to shrink and disappear. It is the tendency for them to grow and explode. Just wait until ObamaCare really gets going to wait and see the overwhelming and omnipotent affect of government in our personal health lives. Just wait for the government health database gets up and rolling! They will be telling you exactly what you can and can't eat.
Kaptainsteve March 12, 2013 at 08:27 pm
"World-renowned pulmonologist, president of the prestigious Research Institute Necker for the last decade, Professor Philippe Even, tells us that he’s convinced of the absence of harm from passive smoking.
PHILIPPE EVEN. There are about a hundred studies on the issue. First surprise: 40% of them claim a total absence of harmful effects of passive smoking on health. The remaining 60% estimate that the cancer risk is multiplied by 0.02 for the most optimistic and by 0.15 for the more pessimistic … compared to a risk multiplied by 10 or 20 for active smoking! It is therefore negligible. Clearly, the harm is either nonexistent, or it is extremely low." http://www.leparisien.fr/abo-faitdujour/on-a-cree-une-peur-qui-ne-repose-sur-rien-31-05-2010-943934.php
Kathie March 12, 2013 at 09:03 pm
You go spiff!!! Xellent comment
Spiff March 12, 2013 at 09:06 pm
Thanks Kathie.
Kathie March 12, 2013 at 09:15 pm
Kaptainsteve, I liked the last article which is so much truer. That said I grew up in a house full of smokers and bar smokers never did me no harm, it's Heredity or it's Your immune system, I know people that smoke for years nothing happening to them and other 2 people I knew died of lung cancer never smoked or second hand smoke
Ben Rodriguez March 13, 2013 at 02:24 am
Banning soda is over-reaching. But for those that think cigarettes don't have arsenic, formaldehyde and many other toxins that cause cancer and that 2nd hand smoke causes/inflames asthma...that ship has long sailed.
Steven Jones March 13, 2013 at 12:39 pm
Regardless of NY's attempt at the large soda ban, there is a short-term possibility for government based decisions that can shape healthier eating habits and curb obesity rates in children. Whether it is keeping soda machines out of schools, providing effective nutrition/health classes, or sustaining recess and effective physical fitness courses.
But after that it is up to the family to sustain the ideals taught in schools of nutrition, an active lifestyle, and moderation at home; and then it is up to the child when they become independent to make their own choices on what they eat/drink, or what they do in their leisure time. But for NYC, the problem of obesity isn't something that can be directly solved by banning the size of sodas available to residents/consumers. Families simply need to spend money on water filters attached to the faucet (assuming water quality/taste is sub-par), and promote drinking only water and/or fruit juice (which already has enough sugar in it). Most pediatricians recommend 5-9 cups of water for children per day, and 9-13 cups per day for adult women/men.
Joe Saxton March 13, 2013 at 01:14 pm
High fructose corn syrup should be part of this discussion.
Jane March 13, 2013 at 06:07 pm
I'm really disturbed and worried about the progression of the Government. As soon as a person is elected he/she takes it upon himself to begin trying to control the population. Make us safe, make us healthy, make us defenseless, etc. There seems to be no limit to the things they think they should control. Regulations, rules and laws are getting so oppressive and personal that I fear for the next generation. If only they would concentrate their efforts on promoting business and the economy of the country. .
Kaptainsteve March 13, 2013 at 08:06 pm
Who cares whether or not the government controls to make us healthier would work or not? This is not the point. The point is that this is not what government should be doing and if you allow the precedent to be set, there is nothing in the future that is off limits.
The Federal governments purpose is to protect our inalienable rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness (and property), not to force us to eat this or not eat that. The solution is simple. Get government out of the things that don't deal with protecting our inalienable rights. The debate about chocolate milk or soda machines in school only exists because governments (by force) run our schools. The solution is to get them out of the education/chocolate milk/soda machine business. You can apply this across the board, with most controversial government-should-do-or-ban-this arguments. The solution to gay marriage has nothing to do with being gay or not, it has to do with government controlling (by force) the marriage business. The solution is to get government out of the marriage business. It's the same thing with healthcare benefits and healthcare and almost anything that government messes up. It's so simple, just allow private people in voluntary associations and voluntary contracts solve all these problems and GET GOVERNMENT OUT!

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